Why does they didn't give the sunk pictures to the russians?
0:59 artefacts? if you call military tech artefacts, then yes..
********NOPE**********Actually, K-129 sank 350 miles from Pearl Harbor after it attempted to fire a nuclear warhead at the island and take out the Navy’s Pacific Fleet. This was confirmed by satellite photos and an oil slick on the ocean surface. For years U.S. Navy officer Johnny Walker was paid millions of dollars by the Russians for stolen top secret documents. One top secret document was a report that U.S. was concerned China would launch a nuclear missile at the United States. Russia’s plan was for the U.S. to think it was China that launched the missile. Before the submarine left port, 15 unknown men who were not part of the normal crew joined the already full submarine. Theses 15 men were never added to the master list. At some point the 15 men took control of the submarine and attempted to fire the missile. A fail safe that the rogue team was unaware about caused the missile to explode in the missile tube and rip a 10 foot hole in the submarine. When K-129 was located, there were 40-50 crew members locked in the forward compartment, when normally there would be no more than 8-10. Russia’s missiles had a range of over a 1,000 miles, but China’s missiles had a max of 350 miles, that’s why Russia attempted to launch at 350 miles. Russia’s submarines could launch a missile while submerged, but China’s couldn’t. That’s why K-129 attempted to launch the warhead at the surface. K-129 didn’t “break apart” when the claw was raising it out of the water. Almost the entire submarine was retrieved. PROJECT JENNIFER was a complete success and they retrieved everything they wanted.
Keith, this is 1 of my favorite stories that captivates my attention on many levels.
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Soviet submarines don’t get lost the submarine was 300 miles off course that in itself is a staggering admission captain submarine had decided to do something that he was not authorized to do either he was looking for asylum or looking to start World War III. When K-129 passed longitude 180, it should have been farther north, at a latitude of 45 degrees, or more than three hundred miles away. If that was a navigational mistake it would be an error of historic proportions. Thus if the sub were not somewhere in the vicinity of where the Soviets supposed it to be, there would be a high probability, if not a certainty, that the submarine was a rogue, off on its own, in grave disobedience of its orders.[6]:206
Craven does not explain why he eliminated the possibilities that K-129 was proceeding to a newly assigned and officially approved patrol area, or using a new track to an established patrol area, nor why he concluded that K-129 was acting in an abnormal or criminal manner for a Soviet strategic missile submarine.
Craven also noted:
While the Russian submarine was presumed to be at sea, an oceanographic ship of the University of Hawaii was conducting research in the oceanic waters off Hawaii's Leeward Islands. The researchers discovered a large slick on the surface of the ocean, collected a sample, and found that it was highly radioactive. They reported this to George Woolard, the director of the Hawaii Institute of Geophysical Research.[6]:216
The submarine was not a nuclear, but a diesel-electric powered submarine. It is mentioned by the narrator in the video :)
you've lost another submarine !
Such cool stuff out there in the world. I wanna start making cool things with Americas name on it we can all be proud of, like this.
I remember when they launched the Glomar Explorer. Big fan fare and cover story when it was in San Pedro, Cal.
And then the times California revealed it
so there is half a sub at the bottom of the ocean with a few nukes in it, and every one knows where it is?
ive literally just watched a video about how the Russians are struggling to raise old nuclear subs that weren't properly decommissioned
it really shows the difference between what can be done in the name of war vs what can be done in the name of cleaning up our planet
I knew people that built that ship. They obviously knew it wasn't for mining. They assumed it was to pick up one larger item.
“SOSUS”
Among us moment
Just found out my uncle worked on refitting it into a real actual drill ship, he said that the metal was a pain to work with because it was thicker and stronger, took multiple days to weld. He also said that even when the government stripped all the classified stuff out, there was still one room no one was allowed in.
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350 million dollars is the amount that it costs to fix the Queen Mary in Long Beach
CIA is the best 👍💯
The bell was returned
2:00 nice
Incredible way the CIA ruined Philippines
It didn't. It fell apart quite early on the lift.
"during" what do you mean?
Now is still cold war
It's the nosy American publicists who blew the possible second attempt. Why not just allow your government to do it's job of getting one over the soviets?
Isn't this a huge war crime. What happened to burial at sea status.
I remember all the news fuss over this at the time. Even as a kid, I knew something strange was going on.
*Russian Government watching this video be raging.*
People in the comments are using big fancy words that I don’t understand. ;-;
Hope the Nuked weren’t left there
The sub's initial give-away was radioactivity in the waters near Hawaii
The sub had 11 extra crew not known before hand, and even the CO was asking why. Then another person not USSR Navy, showed up and went along.
Anyone interested in a deeper dive (pardon the pun) into this story should read “Red Star Rogue” by Kenneth Sewell.
It’s written really well, & explores every possible scenario, including what most likely took place aboard this Russian sub that fateful night back in 1968.
Okay, so this is interesting but already public information via the web from some years back. Original story's goes the Russian sub with a rogue group did attempt to lunch a missile at Hawaii. However there remains a question whether the US warned by the Russians after the uncovered the plan hunted and killed the sub or the russian captain did set off a missile in its launch tube burning hole through boat and sinking its self. This self destruct mechanism was also used by the russians again public knowledge by the K-219 off Bermuda in 1986.
I've read much about the sinking and recovery of L129. .....One of the things I found fascinating was that upon recovery of the section or sections that they brought up, we brought in metalogical experts /engineers to take a gander at the construction, and that they were utterly amazed to find that as part of the support structure of the hull, they actually had wooden 2 x4's in place, instead of metal struts, etc. in certain places The U.S. was kind of stunned to see such primitive construction and the story that I read alluded to the fact that it was in essence a "feel good" moment.........Apparently our sub construction was quite advanced compared to theirs.
In 1968 the Chinese did not have ballistic missile submarines.
First off great videos professor. Your ability to come up with great areas of interest and do a thorough job researching show your master of the craft. But in this one I have some issues regarding the story that the sub was destroyed by blowing up its own nuclear missile. First, did blowing up the warhead result in a full nuclear detonation? If so, depending on the yield, much of the sub would have been instantly vaporized and the area contaminated with a huge amount of radiation. Secondly , the Russians having this option to detonate the missile should the captain enter the wrong code seems a bit extreme. Even for the soviets. If they wanted to thwart a potential situation like this I would imagine entering the wrong code; at worst, would render the nuclear bomb inert.. Allowing the missile to launch but result in a dud when detonation time came around .
Keep up the great videos
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How can you be sure “your source” is reliable?
I am deeply connected to this area, but also sworn to secrecy. I never was much interested in history like this when I had access to classified information though. The story of trying to trick the U.S. into a fake China attack doesn't add up, unless the K.G.B. team was profoundly ignorant. I don't think any of the major players would be able to meaningfully trick our intelligence in that way. The communications protocols wouldn't make sense, signatures of the launch vehicles and characteristics wouldn't fit, and most of all... the Russians would be fully aware that the United States likely knew the whereabouts of all the Chinese subs too. I think you have told a fictional story. If you are ever approached by someone who really does know what happened, they will leave no trouble giving you exact details of their background and how they were involved. I, for example, could produce photos taken in the places I travelled, names, dates, service record, and even awards. I love your channel, but this one doesn't add up.
Great story and great resources.
Great story, but a Soviet intercontinental nuclear missile would only sink a submarine? I mean wouldn’t it have blown it to smithereens??
But ww3 nearly stared by glare from clouds in 1983.
I don’t think they would have assumed it was the Chinese.
I would agree this is way better than broadcast tv 👍
Holy moly I would’ve expected that the whole vessel would have been particulated
Bruce Rule was one of the lead acoustic analysts for SOSUS. you can check his report. What essentially happened was while the boat was snorkeling in state 6 seas, the cap of the snorkel kept closing to keep the water out, and it led to a hydrogen build up. Unfortunately it went off in the battery, which spread to rest of the compartment. With the crew incapacitated, they could not end their preplanned missile exercise, which they were snorkeling to perform, and two of the ballistic missiles had their fuel ignite in a simulated launch, one after the other. It burned out the hull, and went through the keel, sinking the boat. Horrendous way to go.
When they discovered the submarine Americans found a sailor wearing a fire suit near the submarine and not far meters from the soviet sailor a fire hose was found.
The Americans suspect that a fire broke out and that Soviet sailors tried to extinguish the fire of one of the rockets in the silos because the doors of the silos were open.
I have heard the same story that the KGB hijacked a submarine but I never believed it again I thought there was a problem with the missiles because the Soviet Union tried to fire a missile to test the ability of the Americans to detect a missile fired from a K-129 because he had to float to the surface to fire a rocket and this made them quite vulnerable but something turned out wrong and they tried to put out the fire.
But this incident with the Russian submarine in 1968 is an inspiration to record the red October hunt and what is interesting about that movie new system of movement of the submarine something that could have been applied to the k-129 silent without a propeller motion system which is interestingly quietly approached Hawaii?
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It's readily apparent from many of the comments that a lot of folks have not read Red Star Rogue. One guy talks about a nuclear detonation, which tells me the comment writer knows little about nuclear weapons. Sewell never writes about a nuclear detonation, by the way, but an explosion with the missile itself. Another wonders about what evidence might be available on a sunken submarine. Plenty. The most telling would be if a launch tube door was open and damage to the structure consistent with an explosion. Sewell doesn't write about the wrong code being entered in his book, either. Don't know where that theory came from. Bottom line, I found the ideas put forth in the book to be plausible.
Am wondering wat evidence will be available on a sunken submarine to support the presence of KGB, destroyed by a nuclear war head which is supposed to be self destructed within the sub. And he is pretty sure that the captain has entered the wrong code..... That's fishy