"Uses a switch mode power supply to reduce noise" Lol.
Cool video, but please stop yelling at me
What brand is that blue turntable?
Of you Forbes the mani you dont know anything about entrylevel vynil
SCHIIT is the best......
New to turntables. Is it better to have a built-in preamp in the turntable compared to a free-standing one (like the ones featured in the video)? Will using a regular amp/receiver (the ones used in stereo systems) be better than using a free-standing one? Will these affect sound quality?
where's the schiit?
So I recently purchased the fluance rt85 table with the 2m blue stylus. Trying to decide on a suitable preamp for this setup. Any suggestions? 300-400$ is my window. Thank you. Joe
Most of these phono preamps are utter rubbish. The Rega is probably the best sounding but it's no peach.
Does anyone looking for a phono preamp need an explanation, in regard to their function?
"(Moving coil cartridges) are preferred by audiophiles and music lovers because they are able to extract more information from the record grooves..." Opinion NOT fact. The profile and shape of the stylus determines how much information can be heard.
You should checkout edward audio, they make excellent phono pre-amps, google them
Thanks for the info, I really like the Cambridge (Or DS2!). I'll prob. buy that soon. Depending on price... I have that Ummagumma vinyl in the back, early press. !Killer! I get my Floyd from this Facebook group called TOVAG, or The Original Vinyl Auction Group. I highly recommend it for those rare albums at reasonable costs.
The Schiit Mani spanks them all - And by a mile! - $129,00 USD
Cambridge features a switching mode power supply to further reduce noise? Since when have switchers become quieter that linear regulators? No mention of RIAA equilization?
Would be cool if you did one for phono under 1500 and under 3000 too
Sorry, the best Phono under $500 is the Puffin
What about the Schiit MANI .
Links to the best phono preamps we listed in today's phono preamp review video:
1. Fluance PA10
2. Behringer PP400
3. Yamaha WXA-50
4. GOgroove Mini Phono Preamp
5. Emotiva Audio XPS-1
While some people can't hear below 20 Hz, some can. Some of those who can't hear below 20 Hz are able to feel the sound at that level.
The option from Yamaha does not have a Phono input.
You should check the volume of the video because it sounds too low
Thanks a lot for this wonderful content!! 😍
Here's something on my (Christmas and anytime) :) wish list: a Preamp that can take in the signal from my CELL PHONE OR TABLET'S HEADPHONE JACK, (and turntable too maybe) and boost it up to LINE LEVEL POWER. Oh, and BATTERY POWERED! There isn't such a device anywhere! So WHY am I anxious for something like that? Well, the new USB Audio Interfaces with 4 inputs have 2 Line Inputs, BUT they are LINE LEVEL inputs and cell phones don't have the oomph to come through on them. Oh, I could get a split cable with a 3.5 mm into my cell phone and dual 1/4" into inputs 1 and 2 of such interfaces, but then there's no input for voice! Ah, well!
"under 20 Hz a human ear can't hear"
fascinating: when I put my Subwoofer to 10 Hz, i do hear that .. so I am no human ^^
Hi sir ask please i have a pro ject debut carbon connected to my denon phono input avr receiver if i add a pre amps does the sound quality will improve even though my receiver has a phone input!. Thanks a lot and more power
Flurance PA10 - RCA to RCA is not really needed. Optical or HDMI.
The PA 10 guy was terrible in trying to describe what the unit did or what it was. Had he even heard of a PA10?
I ordered that mani preamp I've heard nothing but good things about it if I was you I would call up the company and tell them what's going on maybe they can help you
I own both the Mani & the PHO-8! I have two seperate vinyl rigs making swapping easy. I wish the Vince had a higher gain setting; 40db is too low, but sounds great otherwise. I usually have the Mani at the 48db.
What do you think of the ifi Zen phono pre amp?
I have a Cambridge Audio 640P that I bought from a Canadian seller on eBay for $68.00.
I really loved it snd highly recommended it. However just recently the right channel stopped working. Now I’m searching for a new phono preamp. Deciding between Hafler, Musical Fidelity or another Cambridge Audio. The Azure sounds appealing according to your review.
The red Rolls is fifty bucks on Amazon, and is much more than most people will ever need. Once you get into becoming an audiophile, though, it's a never ending search, fueled by your lotto winnings.
I'm sorry changing the power cord will not improve the base .not on its own now if at the same time you changed the RCA cables yes or the cartage on the turntable or a new stylus or even different speaker cables .see were i am coming from here BUT not the bloody power cable
Simple I’ve been considering for a while. Thanks for the video and recommendations. I currently run a cheap little bear preamp from Amazon. And I’m running a Denon DP 65F turntable. So upgrading the preamp, cartridge, and speakers (Edifier Bookshelves) Are all on my list of to do’s!
I have the Vincent Pho-8 and look forward to your review of the PHO-701
I would also love some opinions on the NAD PP 2e, Pro-Ject Phono Box S2, and U-Turn Pluto 2 comparisons to the 651P as well
I’ve had the Mani for about 2 months now and about 1 week in I started to hear all kinds of noises through the speakers after the record would stop playing. Like when the tone arm lifts up and returns to the cradle and then some static noises. I’m sure it has something to do with the cables/ground from my table although I don’t have the same issues when my table is connected directly to my receiver. Other than that it’s a good pre amp for the money
Great videos! Just found out about your channel and subscribed.
Personally I also have the Schiit Mani and have had no problems, but yes I have read forums about people getting radio frequencies through the Mani. Luckily I don't live near a radio station.
I'm curious to try out different phono preamps in the near future. First I think I should upgrade my speakers, perhaps a pair of Wharfedale Evo 4.2 or the Triangle BR03.
Good review,i lke your channel!
Nice& interesting watch! Also discovered your Vincent PHO-701. What I couldn't find is what ADC chip they use for de Analog to Digital to USB conversion. Price wise it is close to the Korg DS-DAC/ADC-10r, Thorens MM 08 MDC & Music Hall PA2.2 Phono, all with high res USB out connection.
Have two; a Park Audio Budgie & Phenomena II.
Thank you for the research, I've been using the Schiit Mani for about 18 months and have been quite happy with it, no issues so far, this video has provided me with some good options should I encounter any issues.
The Mani is my end game preamp until Schiit comes out with something else. I never experienced the RFI issues, but read plenty of reviews that people did experience this problem.
I use the U-Turn Audio Pluto preamp and I have been very happy with it. It pairs well with my classic Technics SL-1100A.
Get videos by the way. Question do you think it best to get an external phono amp instead of using the one on the receiver
Hey Michael, love your informative channel. I ordered a U-Turn Orbit with their built-in Pluto preamp and like it just fine. For non-critical listening in another room I have a $65 ART Precision Phono Preamp for Turntables. And wow, it works pretty darn well. I think it has more gain than the Pluto. ART has another version ($99) that also includes a USB output for connecting to a PC to digitize your albums if you are so inclined.
The Orbit Turntable's built in preamp can be turned off, so maybe I'll upgrade to a better Schiit or Cambridge later on. Thanks again.
Thanks. Helpful to find quality items for my first time with all of this
Would love to go & have a look in PS audio
Maybe you know the answer to a question I have been thinking about: When using a turntable, could I use a regular preamp and digitally apply the RIAA curve in post processing to get the same/similar/possibly better result as using an actual phono preamp? Where can I download the RIAA curve? :)
*EDIT: Yep, you can download it. I'll test it out recording some records and see how it does digitally.
Sweet crib! How about a tour:)
Thanks, Paul once again. You taught me there. Godbless.
The purposes of the equalization are to permit greater recording times (by decreasing the mean width of each groove), to improve sound quality, and to reduce the groove damage that would otherwise arise during playback. Source Wikipedia
There are no needles on or in a stereo. It is a stylus.
Needles are for sewing and for flu shots.
Yes, countless people call a stylus a needle -- and they are all wrong. However, most of them do not realize that it is a stylus, because reputable folks that have influence also call the stylus a needle (see timestamps, above).
Please do not perpetuate mislabeling styluses as needles.
....because why sell you a complete (insert thing here) when we can chop the gross sum total (thing) into many parts and components that rely upon one another in order to procure more profit from multiple sources?
RIAA isn't necessary, it's a necessary evil.
Like extended warranty and income tax they are implements of greed.
Thanks again Paul, just love the simple explications and info on the RIAA curve. I learn something new everyday. Thanks
There was the time at all I had was records as my source. When CD players came along it took me almost 18 years to be able to say I could find one that sounded musical. Now streaming has come along and I got sort of hooked on the convenience. As of late, I have started to listen to vinyl records again and I am really appreciating the sound quality like never before. Yes it's more inconvenient but now I have multiple input sources that I can choose from and I get enjoyment from all of them.
...and now, the contradictions began...
Phono pre amps amplify the signal coming from the turntable. Standard pre amps don't amplify anything. They just give you volume control and the ability to select source.
The pot was provided to make listeners think vinyl sounds good. Reeeeeef....
Cool. So I definitely need one on my Sansui 9900z receiver with my Dual 622 turntable which I love? Thanks Paul ole chap! Hahahaha
One important point that Paul didn’t mention, is that if you are using a separate phono preamp connected to a preamp that also happens to have its own built in phono stage, you must connect the separate phono preamp to a line input, and not the phono input of the main preamp.
I was wondering Paul, you've mentioned several times that PS Audio's first product was a phono preamp. You guys still have a class A Stellar Phono preamp, $2.5k, what happened to your old 1970s design? Wouldn't it sound classic and awesome, and be priced at something more attainable nowadays?
I'd love a PS Audio offering phono pre that's better than the built in one in the Sprout and Stellar Strata, and I'd like it for less than a grand. Please and thank you 😉
More parts, at least in the power supply, gives better sound. So an outboard phono preamp with it's own power supply can easily outperform the same circuitry built into the preamp. Note the the Stellar phono stage costs almost half of a BHK preamp.
Most external phono pre-amps are (today) way better than the built-in ones found in "legacy" receivers and integrated-amps. Just connect the phono pre-amp output to the "aux" (or tuner/aux2) input on your main preamp (or integrated-amp or receiver). The second pre-amp stage is essentially just acts as an "active" volume control (and in some cases tone controls also).
For those thinking they are allergic to EQ, beware your RIAA phono amp is the most insane EQ covering 40dB of filtering range. I like a tiny 4db EQ gain around 12kHz to help my ears recover some aging hearing loss...and believe me, such EQ can really rejuvenate your listening experience, but it’s hard to find any great audio gear caring about that cause audiophile consumers are told to believe EQ is bad 🤔
Just got a Schiit Mani. I’m a believer now.
I really like the phono pre-amp thats in the pre-amp. Never found the need for an external. Maybe if I ever had a "resolving" system