Will this lens damage the mount on my Nikon f3? Is it too heavy? I like to use a hand strap and just hold my camera with one hand down at my side
Hi Dustin, even though this is a 4 years old review I am still going to sent my comment here because your review goes much deeper to the characteristic, soul, rendering than just plain lab sharpness result.
I have been contemplating to pick either this guy or the MP50 f/2, but in the end with your review I picked this up. My all time favorite is the 85 1.2 L, not that the lens is perfect, but its has a very special rendering that gives it a soul, and I have a same feeling about this Milvus too. Thanks for the outstanding review, and please keep it up!
Mr. Dustin why you can use a towel to remove all your sweating. its just destroying your footage.
Would this lens be appropriate on a vintage film Nikon F body... or would the size/weight of the lens make it an ergonomic nightmare?
iv had the good fortune to use zeiss lenses on my d850s and .. im blown away ..iv used zeiss binos sights etc .. these camera lenses are awesomely awesome
if the Zeiss 50 1.4 Manual Focus or Auto Focus?
Has the Canon RF 50mm 1.2L beaten this Milvus 50mm now?!
I suggest trying your regular 50mm lens on manual focus before spending a ton of money on this optical marvel. If you screw up most of your shots because you couldn't nail the focus - then stick to your existing nifty fifty with AF. The optical supremacy doesn't worth all that images you screwed because of manual focus difficulties on that shallow DOF.
Looks like your studio needs AC lol
I had been slightly indecisive about which high end 50mm to get for my recent purchase of my Nikon D810. Like you, I am more about the artful rendering, than the full on resolution. I still love my older Nikon D700 because of that despite the 12mpx limit. After watching your review I am of the mind to go with Zeiss Milvus T* 1.4/50mm over the Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art. It will take some saving, but in the meantime I have my Tamron 45mm 1.8 VC. Since the last time I commented, I gave it some thought and watched again; Its a expensive lens after all. After this 2nd veiwing I noticed your shirt is same color as Zeiss logo; wonder how many caught that... he he. Great review!
The Distagon name makes me think it might be built on a retrofocus wideangle formula, which implies both aa proneness to distortion AND a potentially brutal frame coverage, if it is a wide angle with 50mm it might even be able to cover 6x6
I know it's been more than two years since you reviewed this but when you said that "of the 50mm I used short of the Otus 55mm, this is probably the most pleasing images from a 50mm type lens." I own several Zeiss lenses, including the Milvus 2/50 Macro. You obviously haven't used "the best 50mm". I have owned and shot the Leica 50mm f/0.95 Noctilux for years. You mentioned how nice-looking the bokeh this Zeiss produces. I'll tell you right now, it doesn't even come close to the Noctilux. Zeiss lenses are exceptional but Leica M lenses are a few levels above Zeiss, cost and format (rangefinder) notwithstanding. That's just a fact.
Manual focus at shallow depth of field: NO. That is the bottom line.
Hello! Having shot both lenses, how would you say this Zeiss Milvus 50mm f1.4 compares to the Makro-Planar 50mm f2, either the Classic or the Milvus. I am particularly interested in the color-rendition, micro-contrast, and general drawing of these lenses as I am looking for the best 50mm lens (not at Otus pricing) for my father's old Nikon F3. Furthermore, the f1.4 aperture as well as the macro-capabilities are both pluses but not a necessity for me shooting most portraits at f2. Thank you!
Hey Dustin, huge fan of your work! Keep it up. Question, how would this Milvus compare to the rendering & resolution of the Nikon 50mm f/1.2 and/or 50mm f1.4 Nikkor Ai-S Manual Focus Lens. Thanks in advance!!
I just got my second one. I thought back and remembered that this lens was the best lens I've ever used for any length of time and wondered why I didn't have it anymore. The Black Friday promo sold me again. Can't beat that. The images this lens is capable of are just amazing. A lot of people think 50mm perspectives are boring, but when I look at my work, it turns out that most of my best shots were taken with a 50mm or a 35mm. If I could only have one lens, it would probably be this Milvus. My one wish, is for Zeiss to make a low element count 35mm f/2 lens with near APO performance, basically just update the current one with some fancy glass. I know it's a lot to ask, but I don't need all that weight in a 35mm. All these primes are getting heavy and faster than we need.
Have you looked at the Sony Zeiss 50mm f/1.4?
dude, you're running a cold sweat
Thanks for the great review. Although I shoot Nikon I find your reviews helpful when trying to decide a new lens. I got the Sigma Art 24-35mm f/2 and Zeiss Planar 50mm 1.4 after following your reviews. I kind of am leaning towards the Milvus 50mm over the Sigma for art projects and some old school style street photography. I agree on the rendering of resolution style of Zeiss lens kind of out classes the Sigma Art. How do you feel about the 50mmm Milvus in regard to micro contrast and black & white translation? You are one of my favorite reviewers and hope you enjoy good health; take care..
I just order it today , will pray that the lens arrive safely :)
Boke from classic a lot a lot better, all other no matter for me.... BOKE BOKE and BOKE makes classic ZEISS 50 1.4 one of the best for many many years
hey mate .. cool video .. do you have a proper video on your tokina opera 50mm f/1.4 FF Canon EF? I mean, how is that compared to the Milvus 50mm 1.4 man? You are awesome as always bud.
Thanks for your work and this comparison!
I shoot the Planar 50mm 1.4 ZF2 for some years, and the Bokeh of the older planar designs by Zeiss is just a wonder for me, I prefer it much over the newer, more steril looking designs of the Milvus. So, the older 85mm Planar it will be :)
love these comparisons as always! great job!
Why to buy the zeiss lens if you can have the rf 50mm
Great comparison! I've got the classic zeiss and the bokeh gave the images away to me 👍
Another cool video! Do you still have the Tokina Opera?
What's the name of the track in the background?
This lens won’t damage the mount on my f3 will it? It’s not too heavy? I like to use a hand strap and just hold my camera by my side
If it is fully manual why are there electronics contact?
Can you Declick the Canon Version?
yeah 2300 dollars in Australia for lens with no AF,. Fuck off Zeiss.
I prefer manual focus...
Unequalled Zeiss Milvus,awesome,high quality,magnific!!!
Oh, that looks beautiful!. Provided that you can learn to manual focus and know what to shoot and when, do you think this 85mm lens outperforms the canon 85/1.2 in image quality?
The place looks like Brighton Beach in Melbourne
GO BACK TO HONG KONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you can't de-click the aperture on the canon mount?
On the new Zeiss 100mm F2 Micro lens, besides the rubber grip what is the difference between the old 100mm and the new Milvus for the Nikon?
Wow! What a fantastic lens!
Which slr is that?
Do a video about Otus as well!!!!!
God i wish i was a millionaire :)
Vitasoy, the Cantonese addiction...
Zeiss Milvus 1.4 or Nikon 1.4 🤔
Could it be possible to review the Voigtlander Color Skopar 28mm 2.8?
Cool reviews in general I must say as well!
If you shoot portraits of people, especially women, you'll really appreciate the Zeiss 50mm F1.4 ZE of ZF. It really smooths out skin at the wide apertures, making face look creamy, and yet retains enough detail to look "sharp". Bokeh is very subjective, and anyone who shoots with the Rokinon 50mm F1.4 cine DS or photo knows how odd the bokeh looks on highlights - with strange hard onion ring like artifacts, so to say that bokeh rendition on the Rokinon is superb, and bokeh rendition on this Zeiss is bad is a strange opinion. I enjoy Christopher's reviews, just have to take any review with a grain of salt, as lens rendition is extremely subjective. Why do we love Pancro lenses, an ancient lens design, and this Zeiss 50mm, also a very old lens design? It's in how they render faces.
The characteristics of Planar optics are very soft at full open , if you step down to 2.8 or 4.0, they will become very sharp. But at full open, it is very soft and very hard for focusing.
People need to stop getting caught up in Bokeh and sharpness. Us serious photographers don't give a shit about it. What matters is character of a lens. If you got the talent then you will know how to work around weaknesses in your equipment. No matter what lens you get it will have weaknesses no matter how much money you spend. I never understood why anyone would want to ever shoot wide open, especially at f1.4.
In the beginning you can see there is something black huge in the lense 1/4 of the lense is blocked
For years I skipped this lens based on this review as I think you're the most helpful reviewer on Youtube. However, man, I was wrong. I came across a second-hand unit a couple of days ago I had to test it myself. Wow, just wow, this lens is full of character. Sure it's a very picky lens and tricky to use wide open, but I haven't seen anything like it before. If you love photography and your'e bored of technically perfect lenses, this lens is for you. I think this lens delivers, especially from 1.4 to 2 it produces dreamy images. From F2 and up it's razor sharp but still images are organic and lively, and its bokeh has the more traditional look. Sure, it's a keeper. It makes your pictures stand out and it's fantastic for video too.
Great video, but I would disagree about the conclusion. The "busy" bokeh is the selling point of this lens. The concept that "good" bokeh has to be smooth is contemporary mainstream thinking influenced by corporate safe commercial projects. Alternatively(and in the past) what is also considered good bokeh is if it looks like an impressionist painting with interesting artistic pattern. So "busy" bokeh like swirly bokeh, or bubble bokeh like this Zeiss is the reason to buy this Zeiss in the first place. One might say, its not boring compared to the vast sea of butter-smooth bokeh lenses that look very sterile and interchangeable. Of course Art is all subjective, but I think there is a good reason why Art photographers and filmmakers that can afford very expensive clinical lenses use Vintage lenses for projects instead.
it is meant to be for the spring clip hood, not about wobbly issue .
Thanks man. Although this is a pretty old video. But this review saved me for getting this super hyped lens !
I bought this one for two reasons, for my Canon body. First, my Canon 50/1.4 is not dependable and has been serviced a few times. This one is well built and probably will last a century. Second, its character colour rendition of giving a dreamy look unseen in other lenses. My Canon 50/1.4 is fine in that regard but as I said, it's not working properly all the time. If I can put in a third, it would be its undefinable character for giving soft look in portraits.
Chris, can you find and review really great Zeiss lenses? 25mm F2 (and less quality F2.8), Zonnar 135/2.8 (one of the best in the world)... And even 21/2.8 and others? This 50mm was worse of that line, but good from F2 and up...
radioactive jellyfish lens
A reviewer wrote of this lens, "There are (back in 2014) 165 user reviews on B&H Photo for the 50mm f/1.4. The average rating? 5 out of 5 stars."
He further writes, "..Some lenses have a unique combination of color, contrast, and “drawing” that makes them special. This lens is one of them."
Sure, it may not have met the regular benchmarks but I have seen some good pics from this lens with that X factor pleasing awesomeness.
I think they are all optimised differently by its maker to balance out many things.
This is my favourite fast fifty and by a long shot. Great focus Feel and amazing colour and bokeh.
you can get it for 150usd in China second hand
Great review Chris. The F 2.0 Macro version of this 50mm ZE is much sharper and only slightly more in price.
Does this lens change aperture when you scroll camera dial or always open aperture and close it to f number only when you take a shot?
Vewy Vewy intewesting..
christopher, i think that if you use this lens over a period of time, you'll buy one and use it often. i agree that in testing, it might not have the best results, but after using it for five years, it won't be disposed of. color, contrast and sharpness are all excellent. i rarely use f1.4, but also rarely stop down beyond f4. i notice very good bokeh as well. someone looked at a recent portrait and noted that the subject looked "like they are right here in the room". quite a surprising comment from a non-photographer. it's the intangible character that counts. today, all 50mm are really "acceptably sharp", but not all have character. with the otus and milvus lines firmly in place, the "classic" 50mm f1.4 might be available at palatable cost.
2:01 I'm probably 3 years too late but the wobbling hood is desired. I once asked Zeiss, because the lens hood of my 28 mm Distagon and the 18 mm Distagon are wobbling too. They said, it is because at hot temperature the metal expands so the lens hoods fits and you can release the hood at hot temperature again. Otherwise it would bind on the lens.
Bought this lens second hand a couple of months ago, I'm shooting raw videos using magic lantern and I am very happy with the results! On the photography side, I appreciate the colours and nice drawing of this lens. Each to their own.